One 50 min. Race w/ caution, or two 25 min. heats w/no caution

Like it says. Do we do a mandatory pit window like AI and Rolex? Or should we do a mandatory caution like FMROC?

I like the pit window as it requires a little planning and strategy.

Mandatory Caution - just like FMROC - bunches the field and allows for repairs to be made if needed, but doesn't penalize those who can keep the car clean and undamaged.

I'd say both, but the pit can't happen under caution. The mandatory one at least. But then again, that's just me lol.

If the pits weren't so messed up I would say mandatory pit... This generates more real race scenarios in my opinion. But seeing as the pits are stupid in this game it really doesn't matter to me which we do.

If we do the mandatory caution, why not just run 2 heats instead? That would give you the opportunity for 2 standing starts.

Hey, Smus might be on to something there... Does running multiple heats put you in a fresh car for the restart? Might be a work-around for a lack of aero repair. If that's the case, I know what we'll be doing for FMROC III...

Smus wrote:If we do the mandatory caution, why not just run 2 heats instead? That would give you the opportunity for 2 standing starts.

Love it, I'd like to change my vote to a write-in for that. In real life your car would at least be looked at and possibly repaired, rather than saying "Oh you have no aero? Don't turn then". Real life they try to fix cars during cautions, and in-between heats. I'd be all about the heat idea.

During separate heats I think the field gets inverted for the second start. Maybe. Or maybe it was just the way that the dirt track ran things when I was racing. Either way, if we have qualifying a separate day, or don't have it at all, or whatever, the second start would be a simple change in the game setup, grid by points inverted. I think they do that. Maybe. But now I'm thinking about pie.

Remember guys, the damage will be set to limited. The aero damage is not as extreme with full damage.

Well, I don't see you guys being able to do two 50 min sessions back to back. I like the idea, thats what PWC does, but we do that with FMROC, and it seems like the amount of racers is very limited.

I'm going to throw a 'neither' vote out there, ya know, just to be different.

I could get behind a neither...and the idea of 2 heats would be with 2 20-30 minute heats

Yeah, instead of a 50 lap race or whatever, 2 25 lappers would be what I was thinking. But if nothing else, mandatory caution to re-group.

Standing start sprint races, that's the premise of the PWC series. Two 25 minute heats, not a bad idea.

25 minutes would also mean there would be full replays from start to finish

StalkerStang wrote:Remember guys, the damage will be set to limited. The aero damage is not as extreme with full damage.

Well, I don't see you guys being able to do two 50 min sessions back to back. I like the idea, thats what PWC does, but we do that with FMROC, and it seems like the amount of racers is very limited.

That's just because you Richards hate me and my wonderful series...

Just to offer a lil support to the steward (in hopes to getting a race cam! ) that we remember he is curious on our thoughts and input but in the end its all his work and time put in so Stalker can choose to make the series to his liking regardless of our input if he wants to. For my 2 cents well maybe 2 30 min heats could be cool but remember that with the damage at limited and knowing that dirty racing will be penalized heavily I feel our cars will be fine considering the nice handling and slower speeds. I support the Competition Caution. Allows a accidental mistake early to be made up and I freakin love close racing!

Well said sir Squiddiam. If Stalker doesn't want to go the 2 heat route, I did vote for mandatory caution. Good way to regroup the field and give those of us (me) at the rear of the field a 2nd chance (to not do well).

Thanks for throwing more options out there Richards!

Well I like the idea, but I don't know which way to go yet. Two 25 min. heats. with no mandatory pit window or cautions. Or one 50 min. race with a mandatory caution.

If you want more racing do two heats and on the second heat flip the field... and don't do two 50 minute heats.

Flipping the field would create the closest and craziest racing for sure.

BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!! After reading all the comments about, ya'll swayed my viewpoint and I voted for Mandatory Caution. but after reading farther and thinking aboot it, Having 2 heats would be spectacular. If I can throw my two cents in farther. So we'd like 2 heats... maybe an idea would be race 1 be a standing start. Then race 2 being a rolling start, so then we can easily arrange the cars in correct order. However, I'd be against flipping the field. CAUSE YEAH I'D SAND BAG IT thoughts?

Well you could sandbag, but it would be awfully convent if a driver cuts off multiple seconds to keep the lead when they couldn't get it in the 1st heat

Poll has been updated to reflect the new proposed racing formats. Please re-vote.

Josh on ze bass wrote:BLAST!!!!!!!!!!!!! After reading all the comments about, ya'll swayed my viewpoint and I voted for Mandatory Caution. but after reading farther and thinking aboot it, Having 2 heats would be spectacular. If I can throw my two cents in farther. So we'd like 2 heats... maybe an idea would be race 1 be a standing start. Then race 2 being a rolling start, so then we can easily arrange the cars in correct order. However, I'd be against flipping the field. CAUSE YEAH I'D SAND BAG IT thoughts?

If we qualify then race then flip the field we can let forza do all the starts.

So true, we can set the starting order ascending or descending based upon points. We'll want to be wary though as the qualifying points will be counted.